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 Post subject: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:44 pm 
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Hi!
I just played my first game and I think the game is awesome!
Thanks for this!

But now I have some questions:

Scenario 1:
Dungeon is attacking
A creature is on the table with:
2/0
throwing +2

Now I activate my 4 adventurers for a stamina total of 4.
The dungeon is attacking with power of 4 too.
2 melee + 2 throwing.

Can I prevent the attack?
Or can I only prevent it if one of my adventurers had throwing as well?
Has the adventurer with throwing to be activated for the defense?

Scenario 2:
Dungeon is attacking with this creature:
2/0 (fire)
1/0 (melee)

I only activate 3 adventurers for a total of 3 stamina.
Can I defend by doing so?
Or do i need *fire stamina* to defend against the fire damage?

Scenario 3:
Adventurers are attacking
3 adventurers activated plus equipment with +2 fire
total of 5 power (3 melee harm + 2 fire)

The dungeon is defending with
2/2 stealth
and 2/3 (immune to harm)

The dungeon has a stamina of 5.
I want to defeat the 2/3 creature.
Since it is immune to harm i only have 2 fire damge.

I can't defeat this creauture, correct?

If it would have been a 2/2 immune harm I would be able to defeat it, correct?
(because the 2 fire damage would be enough)


I hope you can answer my questions since these are the only things I don't get completely yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:04 pm 
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Welcome!

countcb wrote:
Scenario 1:
Dungeon is attacking
A creature is on the table with:
2/0
throwing +2

Now I activate my 4 adventurers for a stamina total of 4.
The dungeon is attacking with power of 4 too.
2 melee + 2 throwing.

Can I prevent the attack?
Or can I only prevent it if one of my adventurers had throwing as well?
Has the adventurer with throwing to be activated for the defense?

Your 4 Stamina meets or exceeds the attack, so you defend. Thrown is a bonus that the creature gains, and can be striped away if you use a Thrown attack to match or exceed it (with Ranged).

The adventurer with Throwing does not have to activate, as the cards are not assigned to any one particular adventurer. The thrown ability would be pooled for the attack.

countcb wrote:
Scenario 2:
Dungeon is attacking with this creature:
2/0 (fire)
1/0 (melee)

I only activate 3 adventurers for a total of 3 stamina.
Can I defend by doing so?
Or do i need *fire stamina* to defend against the fire damage?

Yes, you would defend. If you had something that negated fire or harm, that portion of the attack would be negated, but the other portion would still need to be defended against.

countcb wrote:
Scenario 3:
Adventurers are attacking
3 adventurers activated plus equipment with +2 fire
total of 5 power (3 melee harm + 2 fire)

The dungeon is defending with
2/2 stealth
and 2/3 (immune to harm)

The dungeon has a stamina of 5.
I want to defeat the 2/3 creature.
Since it is immune to harm i only have 2 fire damge.

I can't defeat this creauture, correct?

If it would have been a 2/2 immune harm I would be able to defeat it, correct?
(because the 2 fire damage would be enough)

Immunity does not reduce or negate power of the Adventurer's attack, it only reduces when the creature that is Immune is being targeted by a particular damage type. Since your attack now has "fire" attributed to it, and the Adventurer's Power is neutral, it becomes an attack that can defeat the dungeon's defenses = you can now Wound the usually immune Character.

countcb wrote:
I hope you can answer my questions since these are the only things I don't get completely yet.

I hope that helped. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:43 am 
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Awesome!

It's much easier than I thought :)

With the last CCG I played it sadly was the other way around.
Glad to see that you gave so much thought in the rules beforehand and that everything is so consistent!

Still have one question regarding scenario 2.
If I don't need special stamina to defend against special attack why does the Promo card "Shield Flash" give Stamina of the type magic?
What is this "magic stamina" good for?

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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:03 am 
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Incorporeal attacks. This special attack bypasses all defenses unless they are magical/supernatural.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:06 pm 
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Ahhhhhh... that is great to know when the Wraith is in play I was really confused as how to deal with him...


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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:26 pm 
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Thanks again! Now I understand.

I hope you don't mind asking one more thing even you already answered that one.
But I want to be sure I understand that correctly.

The question is regarding Scenario 3.
Again the dungeon is defending with
2/2 stealth
and 2/3 (immune to harm)

Once I am able to win the power struggle with enough power, ONE fire damage would be enough to wound the 2/3 creature.
It only matters that the attack has at least ONE damage type different to the type that the character is immune to.
To say it differently: I do not need 3 fire damage to wound this 2/3 (immune to harm) character.

Sorry for asking again :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:03 pm 
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Correct. As long as your damage type contains (fire) you can bypass the Immunity. This would even work in the case if you had a +0 bonus to Power for the Adventurers, but were able to change the damage type in some way.

If you were to mix in a Short Sword in that same scenario, however, the Immune (harm) Character would reduce the damage of the Shortsword.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:54 pm 
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Thanks again!
Not only for your answer but also for this game.
I wish you all the best and a long future with this game!

By the way: is the booster box out of stock right now?


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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:33 pm 
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No problem.

Booster Boxes should be available by end of September.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about damage types
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here's another one. trying to figure this out:
dungeon:
Massive Animated Tree (4/2) (reach +2)
Archaic Slaugh (5/1) supernatural

when attacking do i disregard the supernatural defense since my adventurers are attacking with harm? so i would only need to tap 2 guys. or do i need to tap 3 guys and then i can't assign the damage to the Slaugh?

Then when the dungeon attacks, how do i deal with the Slaugh since i don't have supernatural defense? do i take 1 damage no matter what i do?

thanks,
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